There's a great post full of insight and observation on negative blog commenting that was recently published at Scientific American. The discussion addresses how the tone of commenting threads affect a reader's comprehension and overall blogging experience.
First, there's an observation about the how the frequency of blog commenting has dropped with the advance of other forms of social media.
As many of you may already know, there is this thing called a 1-9-90 rule of online participation. In any given online community, about 1% of the participants produce most of the content, another 9% participate regularly by editing (e.g., on a wiki), commenting (on blogs and articles), occasionally producing new content (in forums, etc), and the remaining 90% are ‘lurkers’ who do not publicly participate but only read (though these days, many of them participate a little more publicly, if not creatively, by “Liking”, tweeting, and otherwise sharing the content in ways that are visible to others, but without adding any thoughts of their own). The exact proportions vary from site to site, but are usually close enough to 1-9-90 for the general rule to hold.This is definitely a trend that I've seen over the last year or so at SFDB and one that Obalesque noted recently as he frustratingly announced a hiatus for an indefinite time. I used to get numerous responses to my Questions of the Day and more provocative posts but these days comments are limited to a few, regular, and mostly combative, commenters.
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Many people have noticed that the quantity of commenting, especially on blogs, has sharply decreased over the last couple of years. One reason is that discussion of the article or a post is now happening elsewhere – on social media (Twitter, Facebook, Google Plus…) or online communities (Reddit, Digg, Fark, Slashdot…), and are not physically attached to the original post. The trackback functionality is disabled on many sites due to enormous amount of spam.
Some new commenting systems are trying to re-attach such detached discussions back to the original post, but that is still not completely technically feasible – one can certainly not bring in a conversation happening on someone’s private Facebook wall. Some of those 9% of readers, instead of commenting on the post (at least a brief “Nice post, thank you”) are now sharing the link elsewhere and perhaps discussing it elsewhere, without the author of the original article ever being able to see that discussion.
Instead of “silent” participation leading gradually to more active participation as one becomes more comfortable with the site, it seems the opposite is happening: mildly active users are now becoming silent users as it is easier to click “Share on Facebook” than to post a brief comment.
But there is another problem here – most of the good, nice, constructive commenters may have gone silent and taken their discussions of your blog elsewhere, but the remaining few commenters are essentially trolls.
So what about the tone of those comments? How do they affect readers?
An article about nanotechnology, a topic most people know very little about and usually have no a priori biases for or against, was presented to the test subjects. Half the people saw the article with (invented) polite, civil and constructive comments. The other half was given the same article but with uncivil comments – essentially a flame-war in the fake commenting thread. The result is that readers of the second version quickly developed affinity for one side of the argument and strongly took that side, which affected the way they understood and trusted the original article (text of which was unaltered). The nasty comment thread polarized the opinion of readers, leading them to misunderstand the original article.In other words, readers were getting wrapped up in the flame wars and not really picking up anything from the post.
The assumption is that on hot topics, like climate change, readers already come to the article with pre-concieved notions, and thus the civility of the comments would have no effect on them – they are already polarized. Choosing nanotechnology as a topic was a way to see how comments affect “virgin minds”, i.e., how the tone of comments starts the process of polarization in new readers.
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Uncivil, aggressive comments resulted in quick polarization. Readers, although still not well informed about the topic, quickly adopted strong opinions about it.
Which is where comment moderation may come into play.
And even within the USA, the concept of free speech does not mean everyone has the right to say everything everywhere. It does not mean you have the right to say your stuff on my blog. It means you have the right to start your own blog. Just because I have commenting functionality on my site, does not mean you have the right to post whatever you want on it. Every host of every site has the right to delete, edit, or modify any comment in any way, to ban users, and to implement whatever moderation norms and techniques one wants.Word.
Commenting is a privilege, not a right. You have to earn it.
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My blog is my living room in my home. I set the rules. I determine the tone. I determine the topic of conversation. When you post a comment on my site, you agree to abide by my rules, you stick to the topics I determined, and you keep the tone I deem OK to be used in my home (imagine reading out loud your comment in front of my wife, mother and kids). I have the right to warn you and to kick you out of my home – it’s my party, after all. You have no right to be here, no right to say anything – it is up to me to welcome you here, and up to you to ensure you are welcomed.
There's a lot more in the article, including a video on commenting, that anyone with a blog, particularly a blog trying to establish a commenting policy or better understand commenting behavior, will find extremely interesting and useful.
-H/T to Bark Bark Woof Woof
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11 comments:
Interesting article and thanks for sharing. I can honestly say that I stay away from commenting in some of the bigger media blogs because the conversation seems to be so irrelevant and does not add anything of value to the original post. The true question is how to change it, or if it is even worth changing.
Also, the direct response to my comments from authors is a huge deal to me - let's me know that I'm being heard ... but that's just me. CHEERS!
I don't read the bigger media sites, so therefore of course don't comment :)
But I've certainly seen this trend play out on most blogs. The solution is about building community and value. Blogs such as AVC, Mark Suster's blog both sides of the table, etc all get dozens of comments on all posts. So it can be done, it just takes time and effort to get there :)
". . . the concept of free speech does not mean everyone has the right to say everything everywhere. It does not mean you have the right to say your stuff on my blog. It means you have the right to start your own blog. . . Every host of every site has the right to delete, edit, or modify any comment in any way, to ban users, and to implement whatever moderation norms and techniques one wants.
Commenting is a privilege, not a right. You have to earn it."
Read Miami Herald v. Tornillo, something every journo studied in J school. The Supremes held that "the exercise of editorial judgment is a protected First Amendment activity." Certainly, the same philosophy carries into blogdom. Paraphrased, you have to 'own' a press to have freedom of the press. The 'press' doesn't have to let you respond to their editorial content.
But, when the blogger ignores you, you can ignore the blogger, start your own blog, or become a seething lurker!
One of the things that the article suggests is strict comment moderation or turning off the comments entirely. The latter seems to be a bit much but with the former you risk alienating some of your most frequent, if not controversial, commenters.
Obviously, you have to be getting comments in the first place.
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I have to admit Rick, your Gun Guy...not liking the exchanges. He scares the bejesus out of me.
I've worked in online sports and news media since 1997, the entire stretch of which has had an undergirding of meta commentary from users far beyond the gasbaggery already indulged in by the sites' professional reporters and columnists. For my part, I'm just tired of reading opinions rather than well reported facts, bored of the inevitable debates that arise in comment sections and sick of the stupidity and willfully bad attitudes that generally inform such commentary. I believe in free speech, etc., but that exalted idea doesn't mean everybody ought to all cram in and talk at once -- when everyone's insisting on his take (and usually overstating it), then it's a sure bet no one's listening. I'm adding my two cents here out of respect for your inquiry and because I appreciate SFDB every day, but in almost all of my other online reading, which is vast and fairly deep, I almost never deign to read comments, let alone post one. It's a waste of precious, productive moments of my life.
My feeling is, when my posts stop inspiring comments, no matter how dumb, cruel, offensive, and irrelevant, it's time to stop posting, or at least scale 'way back.
I enjoy the flame wars. A pissed-off moron speaking his mind is a source of amusement, and he's usually sincere which makes him even funnier.
But low numbers and no comments at all tell me people have lost interest. The Market hath spoken.
I can never predict the comments -- or lack thereof. I will slave over a long post, putting my heart, soul, and wit into it, only to get zero comments. Then when I bat out something short and fast with very little preparation, I get a bunch. It's like theatre; you never know when you'll get a reaction from the audience.
To continue the theatre analogy, I don't write for an audience. If they like it, great. If not, whatever.
I love comment threads when they're on 'opinion' type pieces, more what bloggers do.
I think the comment threads on many 'news' pieces denigrate into stupidity because often the original piece simply doesn't lend itself to much debate about what's in it.
Of course I didn't read the nanotechnology story in the experiment above but I was thinking, is that really the type of article that I would even need to comment on? Is it controversial? Should I have an opinion on nanotechnology?
A lack of comments on an opinion piece, though, shouldn't lead the author to think people aren't interested. As a 'reader' it's not necessarily my role to comment. I read the writer's opinion. I may then form my own. And I may or may not voice my opinion in the comments. But if I were the type to write lots of comments an opinions, maybe I would be a blogger, which I'm not. I'm the reader, not the writer.
I agree the reader is under no obligation to comment. Or even read, for that matter. But as a blogger, I value the feedback, and appreciate hearing from readers, no matter how vapid, abusive, and toll-like. Getting no reaction makes me feel like I'm masturbating, and if I'm gonna feel like that there are better sites to visit than my own blog. I'm a blogger, not a splooger.
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