This Labor Day make it a point to ask your favorite Republican why they aren't working. As their party toils to strip power from labor and trade unions or destroy them outright, tell them to stow their barbecues and get their ass to the office. They have no business participating in a holiday that is meant to recognize and celebrate the role that unions have played in America's history.Get off the beach. Get out of the pool. Stay away from our parades, asshats, and keep your hands off the egg salad.
Gather up your flag and faux patriotism and go sit in a frickin' cubicle while the rest of us commemorate our country's history and the good people who helped build her.
You don't belong here.
You never have.
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Ahh...nothing like some good ol' class warfare rhetoric to spice up the labor day weekend. Real class act you are.
Aww, cowboy up, JM. Guys like you have been dishing it out for the last 2-1/2 years. Whatsamatter, did I hurt your feelings?
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A successful lifelong janitorial custodian, I know well how some people look down upon, do not appreciate, or have little regard or respect for the labor done by others, particularly our lower skill work.
I've always felt that all labor is good and noble, and that on each Labor Day we as Americans, all of us, each and everyone us, young and old alike, should reflect on that, with recognition and praise of labor perhaps with pictures like this from Life Magazine:
http://www.life.com/gallery/48141/in-praise-of-the-american-worker#index/0
The historic work of American labor unions with Samuel Gompers and John Lewis from a hundred years ago was good in finally bringing about safe working conditions.
But when I look at what unions have lamentably devolved down to now in this century, destroying an entire generation of Greeks in Athens -an entire country and its very culture, and sadly and more importantly here in America:
only 7% of private sector labor belongs to a union;
that means that 93% do not,
only 15 million Americans now belong to a union,
and most of them work in public sector government (no longer mostly underpaid teachers and police, but overpaid bureaucrats) with pay and lifetime benefits that private sector employees will never in their lifetime see.
It's 2011, so the old longstanding notion that union members are overwhelmingly blue collar factory workers is so false and entirely living in the past.
In Indiana, where union members' dues used to be obligatory and taken out of their paychecks, now that it's no longer that way, 90% have chosen not to voluntarily send in their union dues for whatever reasons.
When Americans see the infantile and vulgar behavior manifested by public sector unions in the Wisconsin State Capitol with all the defacing of property, the ceaseless drum beating, and the charade of hollering "shame, shame, shame" within the Senate Chamber which went on for weeks with these uncivilized adults being paid not to work,
it's no wonder that this thug behavior and the misguided mindset created with this huge false sense of entitlement that incites class envy so virulently doesn't attract more union membership or garner approval from Americans so dismayed.
Over the years, most union workers I've known always boast about how much they make, compete even more about how they can get by each day with the least amount of work, and are always counting time until their unrealistic, unsustainable lifetime retirement benefits.
To them, it's all about dollars, not about working in the present, or labor itself.
You are not an individual with talent that can grow. If you don't fall in line with the collective union thought, you are the enemy. There is no real brotherhood; it's sadly become so false and so disparate from the unions of a century ago and of modern American life today.
That's my take on the sad state of affairs of our unions, their misguided self empowerment and self aggrandizement on this Labor Day 2011 as I am inclined to respond and write on this
South Florida Daily Blog
A Daily Review and Discussion of South Florida Blogs
(for those who hate Republicans).
Where it's so divisive, calling other Americans terrorists, etc., and far too often reeks of class envy.
Where's the discussion ? Where's some tolerance for South Floridians who might think differently ?
Where might I ask is the patriotism in that ?
How divisive and sour.
In so many ways, unions, like this post, have become quite small.
Anon....it's quite evident by the way you feel about unions and don't mention or even consider the positive things that they've done over the course of history where you're coming from...and that's okay. You're entitled to your opinion.
But then you launch into an attack on me and this blog which isn't okay and forces me to call you out as just another right wing shill who gets their talking points from Fox News.
Speaking of which, did you watch today as Neil Cavuto was giggling over the down market and the lackluster job reports. He's actually happy because it gives the Republican Party hope in 2012. People are hurting, the economy is stagnant and Neil Cavuto and, no doubt, most everyone watching that POS, loves it.
It's not about class warfare. It's about rooting for this country instead of rooting against her. It's about hoping for things to get better instead of hoping for more pain and discomfort. It's about working to make things better instead of intentionally sabotaging and conspiring against America. Call it what you want.
But I'm through trying to play nice with people who are intentionally and purposefully bent on taking this country down.
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The reply to the first commenter was, "Aww, cowboy up, …Whatsamatter, did I hurt your feelings?"
So I saddled up and wrote here,
mostly because I disagree with the post's statement that Labor Day is a holiday that is meant to recognize and celebrate the role that unions have played in American history.
I write that Labor Day is a holiday that should highly recognize and greatly and rightly celebrate labor itself, not unions. I directed some excellent Life Magazine pictures, and did indeed write of the positive historical contributions of Labor union leaders Samuel Gompers and John Lewis. Perhaps you missed it.
I also write that with their severely diminished numbers and continued declining significance, today's unions have been so self destructive and are today so disparate with their historic good work and with modern American life in 2011.
-How blue collar union factory workers and shop stewards with fingers either too soiled or thick to tap onto keyboards as we do, are simply days gone by replaced by mostly overpaid public sector administration and bureaucrats (not underpaid teachers and police) with a huge false sense of entitlement and unsustainable retirement benefits. The numbers are all there and undeniable.
As for talking points and Fox News;
well, I don't even own a television here and tuned out long ago with Andy Griffith. I still read newspapers and books when I'm not working or on this computer.
So I write here on my own, frankly and sincerely as a South Floridian. And I'm saddened and disappointed that when an opposing view is written here it is summarily dismissed and characterized or imagined as something that it is not.
I'm writing about Labor Day, and how all Americans, young and old alike, each and everyone of us, should pause to reflect positively on this holiday. That's all.
It's Labor Day, not Labor Union Day, and certainly not segregated to the exclusion of some Americans, members of a political party as was written above.
When I reread what I wrote, I found no such personal attack at all, but a reasonable assertive comment on this post and a larger commentary on the intolerance and divisiveness of this South Florida Blog.
There's been nothing personal written here, and what I wrote does not warrant being called another right wing shill.
I could repeat "Whatsamatter, did I hurt your feelings?", but that would be far too easy and not contribute here to a constructive dialogue or exchange.
Instead let me share with you, "Ten Cannots":
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot left the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot keep out trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.
-Abraham Lincoln and William Boetcker.
-The Rev. William John Henry Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister, lectured around the United States about industrial relations at the the turn of the twentieth century long before Samuel Gompers and John Lewis.
Reverend Boetcker originally published Ten Cannots in a leaflet entitled "Lincoln on private property." One side had words by Abraham Lincoln, the other side had the "Ten Cannots".
Rev. Boetcker of Erie, Pennsylvania, lived from 1873 to 1962, and was ordained a Presbyterian minister in Brooklyn, New York.
And so on this Friday evening, I wish you and yours a very happy healthy Labor Day weekend !
And to all South Floridians as well.
(I was late at coming to computers and have now finally figured out how to include my name here as I have now.)
Rick, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but this is the problem...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-01/news/ct-met-pensions-villanova-20110902_1_municipal-employees-annuity-city-pension-pension-fund
It has always been a problem of optics. Yes, unions have done a lot of good in the past, and they may even still do a lot of good. But when you have glaring examples of the "union business model" such as the one above, it's hard to figure who's really benefitting from collective organization.
oy..I'm just glad I have a day off on Monday..oh wait, I'll most likely celebrate by doing more unpaid work for my employer who doesn't pay overtime but expects us to keep doing more with less.
That IS a problem, nonee. So let's fix it instead of trashing unions in general and the people who support and benefit from them. Which is, of course, everyone.
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Having grown up in union town that was near a large city that relied on union labor, I've come to the conclusion that the people who most hate unions are folks who think that it is unconscionable that workers should have the same rights as the managers and the owners of the company. How dare they demand a living wage and safe working conditions. Who do they think they are?
Yeah, yeah; in every large group there are bad apples and examples of bad faith and extremism. Welcome to the human race. The Republicans hold the unions up as the boogeyman of the Western world and label them as thugs... and give tax breaks to the corporations because they know that if they don't, the corporations will kneecap them. Not literally; they'll just stop giving them money, which, in corporate circles, is thuggery. The people who whine about "class warfare" always turn out to be the ones who are winning the war.
Perhaps one of the reasons that union membership is down is that unions have accomplished a lot of what they set out to do 100 years ago. Factories are safer, working hours are reasonable, wages are better than the minimum, and pensions provide some security. The unions have learned, however awkwardly, to accept that they have been successful, but they also know that if some people had their way in the world, they would turn back to clock to 1911, put children to work, take away the healthcare, and demand more production. After all, it works for the Chinese, and look how they're doing.
By the way, not all union workers are Democrats; they certainly weren't were I grew up. A lot of them are hardcore Republicans or conservatives -- including police officers -- who don't care about the politics; they just want to be treated fairly. And a lot of people who are not union members are working under union contracts; in most places there is no requirement to join a union to benefit from their efforts. So while actual union membership may be down to 15%, the number of people who are part of the union is far greater. That includes public sector jobs as well as private. So the next time someone feels the urge to union-bash, be sure you're not peeing in your own campfire.
Full disclosure: I am a dues-paying member of a union of sorts; I belong to the Dramatists Guild. It provides services for writers and lyricists and makes sure that when our works are produced, we have a fair contract and get paid our royalties. The joke among us is that we don't go on strike; we just get writers' block.
Just finished a marinade and while I'm baking a dessert for tomorrow, thought I'd write:
nonee moose,
Throughout history, collectivism has always failed. Who needs to go to Chicago for an example, when we have so many right here ?
Back in February, Charles Rabin reported in the Miami Herald that City of Miami Assistant Fire Chief Veldora Arthur was earning $184,000 a year while she was working. After 25 years service she’s retiring with benefits close to $300,000 a year.
She is 45 years old, and we who pay taxes in the City of Miami (I'm well into my fourth decade) continue to have to contribute to these obscene benefits to former public servants for the rest of their lives.
Rabin's report of all his came only as a result of Miami’s highest-ranking female firefighter being charged in an indictment by a federal grand jury in an $11 million mortgage fraud scheme where she's being prosecuted as acting as a straw buyer in the purchase of multiple luxury Aventura condominiums.
Ironically the retired assistant fire chief was in charge of the fire department's finance, payroll and quality control while at the same time used her name, salary and credit history in 2006 to purchase these million-dollar ultra high end apartments at Aventura’s exclusive Hidden Bay, 24 acres of secluded waterfront property with an adjoining 66-slip marina.
Then of course there's County Manager George Burgess who retired from Miami-Dade County in March and his benefits include:
$326,340 in severance pay
$ 72,892 for unused sick time
$ 78,777 for accumulated vacation time with
Medical and Dental Insurance coverage for him and all his family until he is 65 years old ! He’s 52.
Also, an additional $3,000 a month expense allowance and another car allowance of $600 a month with his severance and all this while he’s not even working for the county anymore !
These benefits are simply unheard of in the private sector. Those that live these millionaire retirements in the public sector derive all their livelihood from the taxes extracted from a private sector that struggles to survive in the real world and will never in their lifetimes see anything like such salaries or ludicrous lifetime benefits.
These millionaire benefits paid to former public servants are obscene. Where is the outrage ?
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continued from above:
...This is the false sense of entitlement I write about which is so pervasive, particularly in today's public sector. There was a time when those that left the private sector to work in government took a break in pay for at least a stable paycheck in a less stressful, less results productive oriented environment and a very modest retirement.
Over the years, our elected officials come and go and we the taxpayers are held responsible for these unsustainable public sector employment benefits they agree to with public sector unions in the public trust.
The public trust has been broken.
The average compensation of wages and benefits for the Federal civilian workforce of more than 2 million is now $120,000.
While the average compensation of wages and benefits of the private sector workforce (that pays the taxes which supports the livelihood of these over paid public sector employees) is now $60,000.
-this according to this August 2009 report from The Cato Institute:
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/federal-pay-continues-rapid-ascent/
Since January 2009, when this administration took office in the White House dividing Americans citizens and inciting class hatred, there are now more than 200,000 more federal civilian employees within the public sector, while there are now more than 2 million fewer private sector jobs to sustain us all according to the fed's own report here:
http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs041.htm
So this completely unsustainable situation and the destructive disparity between public sector employees and the private sector employees who provide for everyone is actually getting worse today.
Franklin Roosevelt was right when he said that government employees should and cannot have unions because with time it works against the very interests of America and her citizens.
If we don't wake up soon, reform, and change course, the future of America may soon well become that of Greece today.
The problem is that Greece with an economy the size of New Jersey is being bailed out mostly by Germany and France within their common Euros.
There is no nation or group of nations on earth capable of bailing out the United States of America. We simply must reform ourselves, and as I write all this divisiveness and lack of civility does not contribute.
Anyhow, let's hope for less of this rain on this Labor Day weekend 2011 in South Florida and best wishes to all Floridians.
Ironically, all this was okay, or at least tolerable, while the private sector enjoyed the high times of the 90's and Republicans controlled the presidency and Congress through 2006.
It's only become intolerable and outrageous!! since the election of Barack Obama.
You would think that public employees have been earning $25K a year up until 2008 based upon the rhetoric of folks like Carlos.
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Continued from above:
...This is the false sense of entitlement I write about which is so pervasive, particularly in today's public sector. There was a time when those that left the private sector to work in government took a break in pay for at least a stable paycheck in a less stressful, less results oriented productive environment and a very modest retirement.
Over the years, our elected officials come and go and we the taxpayers are held responsible for these unsustainable public sector employment benefits they agree to with public sector unions in the public trust.
The public trust has been broken.
I've been writing on this topic in The Miami Herald's Readers' Forum since the 1990's and correspond regularly with Michael Putney on this as well.
The average compensation of wages and benefits for the Federal civilian workforce of more than 2 million is now $120,000.
While the average compensation of wages and benefits of the private sector workforce (that pays the taxes which supports the livelihood of these over paid public sector employees) is now $60,000.
-this according to this August 2009 report from The Cato Institute:
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/federal-pay-continues-rapid-ascent/
Since January 2009, when this administration took office inciting class envy and dividing Americans citizens, there are now more than 200,000 more federal civilian employees within the public sector, while there are now more than 2 million fewer private sector jobs to sustain all of us according to the fed's own report here:
http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs041.htm
This completely unsustainable situation and the now inverted destructive disparity between public sector employees and the private sector employees who provide for everyone is actually getting worse today exponentially. It is history simply repeating itself.
Franklin Roosevelt was right when he said that government employees should not and cannot have unions because with time it works against the very interests of America and her citizens.
If we don't wake up soon, reform, and change course, the future of America may soon well become that of Greece today.
The problem is that Greece with an economy the size of New Jersey is being bailed out mostly by Germany and France within their common Euros.
There is no nation or group of nations on earth capable of bailing out the United States of America.
We simply must reform ourselves, and as I write, all this waste of fault finding, divisiveness between Americans and party, and lack of civility does non contribute to open respectful discussion on the facts.
Anyhow, maybe these daily rains can pause for a day or two over this Labor Day weekend 2011 in South Florida. A happy healthy holiday to all.
Back to your first post, Carlos. Are you aware that the little list of "Cannots" is a rather well recognized fabrication?
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperity.asp
Perhaps not. As you mentioned, you were late coming to computers, so you're probably not aware of the need to keep your Bullshit Detection software upgraded. Clearly you've allowed a lot to invade and gum up not just your machinery, but your thinking. And of course, your gullibility.
Unions have done nothing for me, and I'm generally irritated when forced to deal with individuals or policies governed by union rules. However, the same is true of government, and most authority. That aside, the demise of unions at the hands of wealthier, more powerful economic forces bodes ill for the middle class, as a review of the last 2 decades reveals.
Happy Labor Day.
Carlos...I've honestly lost track of which comments are duplicates as all of them are being flagged as spam by Blogger. If you desire to comment further, you might want to try to learn to hyperlink, otherwise your comments are going to be continue to be treated as spam.
The old disparage and destroy the messenger to obscure the message is so tired an old.
I'm not surprised, and it doesn't bother me at all that an opposing view here can draw such negativity and overt hatred from people who hide behind created pseudonyms of anonymity directed towards one who writes frankly with facts, logic, and his full first and last names. :)
Stop the negative infatuation with the less than 20% of our private sector employees that work in large corporations of more than 50 employees.
Come to the genuine realities of the real world; that more than 80% of real wealth creation comes from businesses with less than 50 employees whose risk taking owners are themselves the last to draw their own paychecks after satisfying everyone and everything else.
It's this more than 80% which provides for an expanding private sector that provides sustaining work for everyone, real job creation within viable concerns, and an expanding tax base, all of which allows to be paid the slew of the myriad of taxes to provide for real sustaining economies and the revenues that allow the public sector to do their vital and important work as well.
That work includes providing a level playing field, fair play and the rule of law, and those limited responsibilities by charter, not social engineering, picking winners and losers, subsidizing huge failures like ethanol, and the removal of essential and vital risk taking from the private sector where it all belongs.
The great real estate bust of 2007, this last housing bubble burst and the severe devaluation of real property we all continue to suffer through is largely attributable to a strong central government through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (and governed by both parties) taking on all the finance risk taking within what used to be the private sector home mortgage market.
Without private sector risk takers and the creative and innovative people they assemble in collaborative efforts, nothing would ever get manufactured or built. There’d be no long term economic churning, real wealth creation, and the steady slow yet real incremental growth of the wealth of a nation as it evolves.
And when a strong central government intervenes as it has with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (governed by both parties), it ruins it all for everyone and that incremental, slow, gradually created wealth of a nation.
With central planners' short term thinking and their perversion of compassion for those not owning a home, their redistribution of wealth is not spreading the wealth. It is spreading the misery. History proves that collectivism always ends in a devastating betrayal to the very citizens they are supposed to protect picking winners and losers.
Because the essential risk taking was either willingly absorbed or dumped by greed on the federal government. It is as simple as that, and sadly so few see it or write about it.
I'm sure there are many more that read here than participate and take time to write and can see through all that is written above including the wisdom here below I've now correctly typed and attributed:
Ten Cannots
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot lift up the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot establish sound security on borrowed money.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they can and should do for themselves.
-Rev. William John Henry Boetcker, Presbyterian Minister who lectured around the United States about industrial relations at the the turn of the twentieth century long before Samuel Gompers and John Lewis.
The Reverend William John Henry Boetcker originally published the Ten Cannots in leaflets he handed out entitled "Lincoln on private property." One side had words by Abraham Lincoln, the other side had the "Cannots" that Rev. Boetcker wrote. It was later republished by the Inside Publishing Company in 1917 and 1938.
Rev. Boetcker lived from 1873 to 1962, was raised in Erie, Pennsylvania and ordained a Presbyterian Minister in Brooklyn, New York.
Government exists to do only what citizens cannot do for themselves.
Rick,
Next time you comment on other blogs and complain about how you are treated...remember this post, especially the last 2 lines.
You reap what you sow, sir.
The last two lines that make a point of excluding Republicans from a Labor Day celebration, Robert? Because they despise organized labor and unions? They don't even want to be there, Robert, so why would I want them them there?
As far as commenting on other blogs goes, the only blog I get dumped on is yours by that Drama Queen Moneo.
So, yeah, I guess you can see I'm all broken up about posting this.
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OK...and that's an excuse for being totally uncharitable and for proclaiming that we "don't belong here" (wherever "here" is)? Suit yourself. You just paint yourself into a corner with every hateful word you post. Consider this a friendly admonishment with the hope that you realize how your divisive words really sound.
BTW, couldn't find anything here regarding Andre Carson's statements in Miami last week. What's your take on it?
Carlos: It's so adorable the way you carefully copy and repeat those cute little axioms. Call me nostalgic, but it provokes fond memories of innocent undergrads toting and quoting their tiny copies of Quotes from Chairman Mao. Which are about as legitimate, thought-provoking, and helpful as these.
Here's my fave: You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You certainly can, Carlos, and in many cases you should. You should certainly destroy the wealthy manipulators of financial institutions whose shady practices crashed the world's economy, and distribute their wealth in judicially regulated procedures to their victims. That's called "justice." You probably (a) misunderstand and, (b) disagree. In that order.
Robert....well, I thought I was pretty clear where "here" is..."here" is Labor Day celebrations. And as I pointed out, many Republicans can't stand the fact that there's a Labor Day. Just go over to the National Review Online and read the posts from yesterday. Why would I want them around while the rest of us celebrate the role organized labor has had in America?
"Uncharitable" and "divisive" with a group of people who hate so much of what America is today? Coming from a Republican, that's rather rich, Robert. Take a look at the list of all the people that Republicans demonize in this country and you decide who are the ones being "uncharitable" and "divisive."
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"Uncharitable" and "divisive" with a group of people who hate so much of what America is today? Coming from a Republican, that's rather rich, Robert. Take a look at the list of all the people that Republicans demonize in this country and you decide who are the ones being "uncharitable" and "divisive."
(BTW: you never gave me your thoughts on the Carson comments.)
You can't make this stuff up, Rick. You do it to yourself, and most of all you do it in plain view for all to see.
That's what's sad about this post and many others you put up. You know the difference between being divisive and not being divisive. Deep, deep, deep inside...I think you mean well. But you can't let go of your ill feelings for those with whom you disagree with (it doesn't really matter what "here" you meant, but I think you're backtracking from the original intention when you posted it). Therefore, you resort to grade-school-level responses like the one to JM back at the start of this comment thread (you hurt my feelings so I'm hurting yours...haaah hah!).
It's either that or this blog has become a poor parody of all the back and forth slandering and distortion in the blogosphere. I'm not sure which one suits you better.
Then to top if off...you put up a post earlier today explaining away a Hoffa quote meant to provoke and incite...and accused some conservatives of taking it out of context (thanks BTW for the holla-back on my use of the simple but dead-on term "uncharitable").
Too bad for your loyal readers you were asleep at the keyboard during all the times liberals have trashed conservatives (including the Carson comments last week right here in Miami which you have yet to provide an opinion on).
Like I said, you can't make this stuff up.
Don't know who Carson is, don't know what he said this weekend, Robert. Now, you can ask me again which would be #3 or #4 or you can believe me or you can think I'm a liar like you do about what "here" means, but the bottom line is I could care less.
I don't like what Republicans, particularly the extremists, are doing to this country. And to say that they're welcome at a celebration for a group of people that they're trying to undermine and, in some cases, eliminate, is just plain silly. To point out that they're principled enough to work Labor Day instead of barbecuing, I think is totally reasonable.
You may think that's uncharitable and divisive...I think it's simply holding them responsible for their words.
If I were them, I would be mad and take offense, too. No one likes to hear how ugly they sound.
P.S. Didn't know you rolled with the hip hop slang. "Holla back?" Seriously?
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Sigh...
In the post right ABOVE this one is a cartoon by the fair and balanced Chan Lowe (OK, he's NOT but who's really noticing besides me) in which he shows Allen West being kicked out by the Congressional Black Caucus. West expressed his desire to leave the CBC after Rep. Andre Carson's (D) comments in Miami in which he stated: "some of them in Congress right now of this tea party movement would love to see you and me ... hanging on a tree".
For someone like you who is so attuned to the political blogosphere to miss something that occurred on your turf is, well, surprising to say the least. Then again, when your buddy bloggers on the left whom provide so much of the fodder for your posts fail to point out the obviously vicious slander of an elected official, it becomes understandable why you would fail to post about it. And if they DID and you still failed to notice, then it's a sure sign that you're posting too much about overrated coffee and greazy Patty Melts. Just sayin'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEq9jRkl29s&feature=share
Anything that falls outside the leftist template Rick's Lilliputian brain has conceived for his master automatically gets deleted or ignored. It can't afford to let truth in. That would be too devastating.
Better lookout or the baggers are going to exercise their 2nd amendment solutions. or maybe they'll just keep whining like little girls.
Don't retreat! Reload!
Well, obviously I AM paying way too much attention to greasy patty melts and overpriced coffee, Robert, because I've totally lost track with what the Daily Republican Hissy Fit is....each and every day. I'm not as attune as you must think. Be surprised!
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You can tell as much about a person for what he doesn't say as much from what he says. I just figured that hateful and slanderous comments from a U.S. Representative on August 22nd in Miami (which received MSM coverage, BTW) would get a little more attention from the left side of the local blogosphere which invests so much time and energy taking apart and every word, thought and deed uttered by the right, but is strangely ignorant to those coming from their own.
Then again, I'm being extremely charitable (uh, oh...there's that word again) in setting my expectations high for this blog and others on the far left of the South Florida scene.
Carry on with your hissy fits. Don't let me and these words stop you, please.
I can't believe Robert, the king of explaining away Republican hate, has the gall of showing up in his high horse.
Here's a list of things Robert has tried to spin as harmless, not that grave, partially wrong but but but the other side does it too or just misunderstood by the big bad MSN:
- xenophobic opposition to the DREAM Act.
- Tea party stupidity such as birtherism (we are the dumb ones for not being able to see the good teabaggers among the loud morons)
- separation of church and state
- Allen West's childish tantrum (you know, he's just a passionate patriot who sometimes does things that aren't really necessary)
and that's just the first page of his blog.
Here's an idea Robert: why don't you post about Carson in your blog, then we'll comment and we'll see how fast Poodle and the usual cast of characters show up and it degenerates into name calling. You are part and parcel of that crowd. It's laughable that after all these years you are crying crocodile tears about being divisive.
Personally, I could care less about divisiveness. I just enjoy pointing out progressives' hypocrisy. It's all koombayah peace love and harmony, unless you disagree with them.
Yeah, JM, and then they actually have the audacity to defend their positions and tell you what they think of yours.
The nerve!
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No, Alex, I think you're wrong. Robert just votes and posts with them. He doesn't agree or condone anything they say or do. They're like vinegar and water.
Just listen. He'll tell you.
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Alex:
Looks like I struck a nerve with you. Good...and I'm glad to see some actual discussion instead of the echo chamber effect too common in this blog and many strongly ideological blogs on both sides of the fence.
Please have the courtesy of providing to Rick's readers links to all my posts which prove (or disprove) your assertions...without the presumptuous editorializing. Funny that you have the audacity to editorialize my views on those issues without providing a link for folks to see for themselves and make up their own minds. Then again I understand why you would fail to do so because the reality isn't convenient and you hate to be proven wrong. BTW, just because I don't post something (in case you didn't notice, I post about once every new moon) doesn't automatically translate to an endorsement or disapproval. That's why I gave Rick an opportunity to explain his feelings on Carson's comments (you're more than welcome to add yours if you'd like).
The URL to my blog is: http://searchingforsigns.com/
It's also ironic because in my blog I have always given you the opportunity to trade barbs and indulge in name calling. You have frequently been a key contributor on my blogs to the very things you are criticizing here. A otro perro con ese hueso.
Rick-
That's fine. I'll be the first to admit that in my mind, the only value to the "ideas" and "thoughts" on your blog are comedy.
But you and other progressives, and especially Obama, are just plain lying if you argue that you treat conservatives or conservative ideas with any more respect.
Your childish rant about labor day proves the point. The majority of blue collar workers are not union members. A large, if not majority, of the conservative "parties" (republican, tea, libertarian) consist of middle class folks. And yet in your mind, these working men and women, who make America work, are not worthy of a day off because they have their own, modern ideas about organized labor.
Maybe you feel that way. Fine. Just expect to get called out when you argue that Obama and the left are open minded compromisers crap.
In other news, on labor day mine and another nice conservative family ate at a sushi restaurant that was open on labor day (do you curse Asian immigrants for working on that holy day of yours?) and we tipped them well!
Fetch your bayonets!
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