I already voted for Obama (via absentee ballot), basically for this very reason. No, we are not better off then we were 4 years ago. I worry about our future. I worry about what I'll be able to provide for my family and any children I may want.
People, MCCAIN is NOT BUSH. IF it were between O'bama and Bush then I could see your point. I would punch in O'bama myself. No one disagrees Bush was bad. But O'bama is NOT the answer. -I think the lesser of two evils is McCain. It seems to me that Most of the O'bama people think he is going to be so super awesome that we will be riding down streets paved with gold... I just dont get the love for this guy.... AGHHH.
Um, Bill, you don't have to "love" the guy, and anybody who thinks he's "superawesome" isn't old enough to vote.And you're right; Mr. McCain isn't Mr. Bush. He's just 90% of him. So if you're up in the air over the 10%, then perhaps you ought to reconsider whether you've thought this through.
Interesting mash-up, Rick.So, which way would you have gone in 1980?On another note, I've really thought about the whole 90% business. It's a total distortion, and anyone who hangs their vote on that alone is, pardon me, not as smart as they think they are.
Right on nonee, right on... At least one person I know is voting for Obama (by the way Bill, he isnt Irish) because he thinks McCain is too much like Bush. The same guy lets his emotions get the best of him frequently, so its no surprise. I feel that anyone who is dedicated to voting for a specific party is naive. Everyone should be an independent.
On another note, I've really thought about the whole 90% business. It's a total distortionHow is it a distortion? John McCain himself is on the record saying he voted with Bush 90% of the time.Oh, I'm sorry. That's from the DNC. They're biased. So, how about an objective observer? Hmm. Well, FactCheck.org says it's 95% of the time. So I was wrong. My bad.
Who said O'Bama is not Irish?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADUQWKoVek
Well, Bobby, I'm glad you asked.First let me say that when McCain claimed to have voted with Bush 90%of the time, he too was distorting the facts for his purposes. Just so you don't think I'm off running to the RNC website in order to defend him.Throwing percentages around without knowing the substance of the votes is of little use to anyone interested in more than pointing an accusatory finger for its own sake. It presupposes that 100% of Bush's positions were wrong, which is a statistical, if not altogether empirical, impossibility.If you want to claim McCain supported Bush's positions which resulted in the greatest damage to the country, for instance, that has some basis in relevance.But don't let heavy thinking get in your way, Bobby. We can just call it your bad and move on.
I'm not voting for McCain based on two very specific and very far-reaching positions he spouses: his continuance of a ruinous war and making the tax cuts permanent, even increase them. Those two combined equal living high on credit and leaving your heirs a huge debt.I don't see how any fiscally responsible person of any affiliation can support those positions.These are Bush's policies as well. Whatever percentage they represent is enough for me.
Nonee,If you can dig up some of Bush's policies that actually did good for our country, I will be impressed.
Nonee, I wasn't making a value judgment about the votes as to whether they were good or bad. I was pointing out that Mr. McCain has claimed to have voted along with Mr. Bush's policies at a certain percentage level.I don't know how quoting his own words is a "total distortion," but whatever...
Alex, my point exactly. Find a reason, not a number.Carlos, is it that you found none? Rough estimates say Obama voted with Bush about 40% of the time. So he's almost half wrong, too. You shouldn't be voting for Obama, you need to vote for a picture of the number zero. Stay on the shallow end of the pool, please.Bobby, you weren't making a value judgement? Why would you quote the words of someone so detestable? What was your purpose, then? Until you have one, I would suggest absolute silence. Otherwise, you become whatever. None of us wants that.Rick, answer my question, sir. Be not afraid, my friend. It seems you can like Reagan up to 40% and Carlos will still come and pinch a loaf here.
Nonee: Ed Clark.No, seriously, probably Reagan. I'm not as steadfast liberal as many, including you, think. It's just that today's Republican Party is so far off-the-scale right and being influenced by absolute wackos.
Nonee, you're hilarious.As for suggesting that I exercise "absolute silence," well, that's for Rick to decide. It's his blog; I am only a guest here.
Rick, I know you're not that liberal. And I agree about the wackos. Every family has that crazy uncle. Obama's just spiked the punch. Somehow, my uncle got the keys to the Caddy and barreled through a revival tent. Snakes everywhere.
Nonee,No, I can't think of a single thing he has done right, so I was wondering if you could, which obviously is not that easy for you because you were unable to answer the question.And you still haven't provided a single reason why Obama is so dangerous. I'm just asking for specifics because I can provide a long list of what Bush has done wrong.
Carlos, find where I have ever said Obama was dangerous. I double-dog dare you.The only thing I have ever said is he is going to cost me money. And that's a reality I have to get comfortable with. He is no more a risk as president than McCain is. It has always been that way. We can choose a preferred candidate based on positions, promises and qualifications, but anyone's actual success on the job is determined after the fact. If you can't see that, you will continue to meet my expectations.I cannot rattle off any policy successes for two reasons: a) I am not versed on every issue this or any administration has pursued, and b)policy is measured over the course of years, and usually only take root if they survive the adiministration that follows. You cannot take a snapshot and go thumbs-down. On the other hand, the president has made quite a mess on some real big ones. Bad decisions have a habit of taking effect faster than good ones.I think Obama voted with the president on the warrantless wiretaps. But that may not be a good thing. Live and learn.As for the long list of wrongs, I have no doubt you have one. Laminated. At the ready. I knew you would.
Carlos, you really ought to stop attacking people who question Obama as a candidate. You did the same thing with me during the National Conventions when I commented that I thought McCain did a better job explaining his plan than Obama did. Im voting for Obama. I just am not about to dive in and love 100% of the guy and his views. You apparently are ready to do that and thats great. Keep it to yourself and let others think for themselves while doing their own research.
Bobby, nonee: Detente, please. There is room enough for everyone but the knuckle-draggers from babalu here at SFDB. Those guys deserve their own planet..
Blind Mind,How am I "attacking" anybody? I'm just having a debate. Unlike most people on this blog, I try to stick to the issue rather than take personal swipes at people.
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